§ ¶Just click it

I decided to try out the final RTM release of Visual C++ Express 2008 today, and no sooner than I mount the ISO image and run the setup app, do I see this:

"If prompted, click the Run or Open command for any download or security warning dialog that appears"???

It pretty much defeats the purpose of displaying warnings to the user if you train them to blindly close the dialogs....

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Hi Avery,

I was reading similar remarks from somebody on the net (sorry, who it was and where, escapes me at this moment :-( )

they were basically arguing (and I wholeheartedly agree) the UAC mechanism built into Vista is a plain BAD idea. It constantly triggers on silly or trivial matters. The user very quickly gets fed up with having to read a barage of (to them) meaningless message boxes and quickly gets into the habit of just blindly pressing "allow" every time, defeating it's purpose !

Calvin (link) - 01 12 07 - 21:57

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While UAC is a security mechanism, it's very much a PR-enabling one first and foremost. That is to say, MS and their supporters can always say "Yes, but he/she was only infected because he/she clicked OK in UAC". It's probably its most important feature, to shift blame from Microsoft to its users. Advice like that in the setup above, just make it all the more devious.

eloj - 02 12 07 - 04:45

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Probably a bad installed, but a good product.
Well VC++ 9.0, is not as improved as VC# 9.0 in that version, but anyway, it is worth the upgrade.

Guti (link) - 02 12 07 - 10:24

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Eh, VC++ 9.0 worth the upgrade? I doubt it, unless they've made it $18 again. There are virtually no new features in the compiler, many bugs got punted since most of the compiler team is busy working on Phoenix, and there's not a whole lot new in the IDE, either. The Intellisense fix got backported to VS2005 SP1.

Phaeron - 02 12 07 - 15:20

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The intellisense fix? Does that mean they disabled it? :D

I haven't installed SP1 yet (I'm simply afraid), but what did they fix wrt intellisense? Does it not drive the CPU to 100% now and make the system unresponsive for 15 seconds on single-core systems? Ooo I hope that's fixed!

Bitbasher - 03 12 07 - 12:47

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They fixed a couple of infinite loop bugs in Intellisense bugs in VS2005 SP1, but the big change is that they released a hotfix post-SP1 that supposedly improves scalability: http://blogs.msdn.com/vcblog/archive/200..

Still haven't fixed some of the fundamental problems (stop thrashing my disk!!), but at least you can manually pause it now.

Phaeron - 04 12 07 - 00:11

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While it doesn't have huge changes to the core compiler or IDE, the IDE does seem more robust so far and handles running on Vista better. Also, there is one feature of VC++ 9.0 that should be quite beneficial to people with large projects... We can finally use multiple cores to compile!

Derek - 06 12 07 - 12:40

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It’s the same thing with drivers. I have seen many devices which state in the manual, on a little tag, etc. to just click continue on the “unsigned driver” dialog box.

Alec Soroudi (link) - 06 12 07 - 23:51

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"Eh, VC++ 9.0 worth the upgrade? I doubt it, unless they’ve made it $18 again. "
I agree that the difference between VS2005 and VS2008 is mostly as minor as the difference between VS2002 and VS2003. To be honest there are new features, but most of them are targeted at programmers using things like WPF or targeting or hosting on Vista. Otherwise, yes there are a few nice new features, but these are minor.

Yuhong Bao - 09 02 08 - 16:00

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